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I've just been offered two ESL teaching jobs, which one do I pick?
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megalomaniac
Joined: Fri May 30, 2008 10:04 am Posts: 1
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 I've just been offered two ESL teaching jobs, which one do I pick?
Do I go with a school that I already know is terribly managed but they give me the freedom to teach how I like and its a course I like and am good at (TESOL - teaching methodology). Its in a city that I'm familiar with but I don't really want to live there.
Or do I go with a new school that seems to have its business act together, is well organized but they insist that I wear a tie (and perhaps other constraints). I hate wearing ties when I teach. (the tie itself isn't such a big deal but its symbolic of control issues) This school is in a nicer smaller city that I think I would enjoy more overall. I'm an energetic, enthusiastic teacher and I just don't understand why I have to tie something around my throat, and choke myself to the point of discomfort in order to show respect. Surely there are other more important ways to show respect to one's students - and I do think thats important by the way.
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| Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:04 am |
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campuskatz
Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:04 am Posts: 1
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 Re: I've just been offered two ESL teaching jobs, which one do I pick?
Go with the new school as you seem to be leaning towards the management style of that school You also sound like you would rather live in that city. Remember, you do have a life outside of school.
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| Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:32 am |
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crazyteacher1984
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:04 am Posts: 1
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I would pick the second, I am always up for a new adventure!
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| Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:38 am |
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old lady
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:04 am Posts: 5
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The second one sounds like a better bet - even if you have to wear a tie. Yes, it may denote control issues, but it also means the students will have to conform to standards as well. The first school doesn't sound like a winner at all - one of these days, they'll send in a new broom and the whole thing will be redone and you may not like someone tromping on your turf.
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| Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:44 am |
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Jordan
Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:04 am Posts: 3
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 Re: I've just been offered two ESL teaching jobs, which one do I pick?
I understand your dilemma. Actually, both looks great oppurtnity for you but at the same time it has its own "pros and cons' as far as your likes and dislikes are concerned. If I were you I would certainly go for the second one coz I'd be living in a new city that I enjoy living in and also I'd slowly come over with the "tie' problem too, which is not a big deal comparatively. Whereas, in the case of the former oppurtuntiy you've got freedom at your job but how long are you gonna be bearing with the boring city.Would you be able to have a fun life in general? I guess NOT. So go for the second one. Sounds reasonably good.
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| Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:45 am |
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JenLeeV
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:04 am Posts: 1
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I think I would choose the new school. Management is everything! Would you rather put up with wearing a tie, or having superiors that don't back you up? Weigh the pros and cons of both. And you aren't signing your life away, you could always give it a year and if you hate it, then move on. Good luck!
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| Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:45 am |
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Patti C
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:04 am Posts: 3
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 Re: I've just been offered two ESL teaching jobs, which one do I pick?
Go the place you want to live. You will have a life outside of your job so live where you want. Good luck whatever you choose.
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| Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:46 am |
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epoloncsik
Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:04 am Posts: 1
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 Re: I've just been offered two ESL teaching jobs, which one do I pick?
Go with the new school. You want someone dependable to be stamping your paychecks. Also, should you need administrative support, it really sounds like the second school is the one to go with. So you have to wear a tie? Leave it knotted loosely, or maybe a clip on (but do they even sell those?) would work. As far as control issues go, there are other ways to express your individuality... like crazy socks or funny sneakers.
I bet you'll do great! Good luck.
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| Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:54 am |
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ESLchocofish
Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:16 pm Posts: 5
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I agree it's a hard choice to make. Personally, I would go for the second one. However, you should chose the one that best suits your taste. If you fell so unconfortable wearing a tie that you may want to resign after the first year, then you should chose the first one. The uniform does not make the teacher. You should also chose where you want to live. To meet with the administrative personnel and asking questions about their set of rules and what they ask of you can also be very helpful. Even if the first school gives you a lot of freedom in your teaching, a well managed institution is always better. Less problems to handle 
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| Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:45 pm |
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mgrima
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:39 pm Posts: 4
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Although both sound like they have pros and cons I think the best way to decide is to make a list of things you like and of the things you don't like for both schools. Once you've made that list then look at the things you don't like and see which ones you can live with. Personally a badly managed school would get on my nerves much faster then a dress code. However another solution would be to ask if the dress code is strictly enforced. For example if you wear professional clothing like a sweater vest and dress pants is this ok or is the tie an absolute must. Overall I think it's really the tie that is bothering you therefore try and see if there is a solutions to that.
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| Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:59 pm |
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buniac1
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:49 pm Posts: 5
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Hi,
I personally think that the second option would be the most interesting, yet the most challenging for you. The first one puts you in a zone of comfort that you do not want necessarly to get in as a new teacher. Even though you might know the dynamic of the first school, its patterns and students, I suggest you to take the second option. The first one provides you with freedom yes, but since you mention that it is not so well organized, this should lighten up your decision. Furthermore, if you are not interested in living in this place, the choice seems logical.
The second option gives you the opportunity to expand your general knowledge over a challenging experience. Even though you do not have so much experience in teaching this type of class, I think it is a new way of learning and pushing your limits beyond. If this school gives you the option where everything looks nice and neat, organized and well presented, well go for it. And for the tie, you will get used to it, it's like starting a new job. At first, it looks hard and challenging, but the more you will wear it, the more you will see that aspect as part of your daily routine.
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| Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:17 pm |
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LyndseyP
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:40 pm Posts: 27
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I'm not sure that you have enough information at this point to make a solid decision. You may want to consider getting contact information from current teachers at each school and talk with them directly about "life on the ground". You could ask them questions like:
1. Are you always paid on time? 2. Does the employer abide by the requirements set out in the contract? 3. Does the employer provide transportation from the airport? 4. What are the conditions of your accommodations? 5. Is there any in-class support? 6. Is there a structured curriculum? 7. What is the average class size? 8. Is the contact with your employer adequate? 9. Is there any other information you would like to tell us about your experience?
You may find that the school that feels stiff and overly controlled gives more freedom than you assume.
I would be very wary about going to a school that is terribly managed in a city that I didn't want to live in. It's a weighty decision.
All the best!
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| Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:27 pm |
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