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Post What do you think about the right to American..?
Citizenship "Birthright" given to babies born from illegal Immigrants????

Personally I am 100% against this so-called Birthright Amendment. It drives ME absolutely insane....I hate to say it like this, but we need to wake the hell up, they have a plan from day 1 and that is to have a baby in america....and then another and another and another...so now their children are american citizens, but they dont speak english until eventually they go to school and of course WE PAY to have special ESL Classes so they can be taught english, even though they were born here in an english speaking country. What is that about?? I mean obviously, I feel bad for the children who's parents are makeing these terrible choices, but at some point when do we grow some balls as a country and stop letting people come here and demand that we owe them something. Please tell me your thoughts, whether you agree with mine or not, this is an open forum, so lets play nice.


Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:24 am
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Post Re: What do you think about the right to American..?
it causes people to come here just to have a baby. it needs to be changed.


Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:38 am
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Hogwash. Children should be brought into this world conscientiously, not like tools. To avoid future generations of lost people, those that specifically have "anchor babies" should be deported even faster than criminals.


Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:42 am
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Post Re: What do you think about the right to American..?
There definitely needs to be some refinement. The 14th amendment is being abused, and is used in a way that was not intended when it was written. I hear you!


Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:46 am
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I hate it, it needs to be abolished.


Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:44 am
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I am completely against "anchor babies" the government must be stupid to allow this to happen. We need all immigration stopped legal and illegal until we secure our borders and begin mass deportation of illegal aliens. Once the borders are secure and mass deportation begun we can take another look at our immigration policy. But that stupid law should be abolished. I agree with the post above from the Mom of two teenagers. They may be immoral and be taught to be baby factories but Americans aren't and our schools should not be involved in what should be considered a parent's job. I too am armed and about to get my conceal carry permit. I would not be surprised if this situation ends in blood shed. We are, if you realize it or not, at war on two fronts one in Iraq and one here in our country fighting illegals and the ones in our government and elsewhere who continue to promote their cause. They won't take my country without a fight!


Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:56 am
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Post Re: What do you think about the right to American..?
This law/rule/guideline needs to be removed from the books. I think the level of illegal immigration would drop sharply if this was removed.


Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:56 am
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Birthright citizenship is a myth. It never really existed. The 14th amendment specifically denies it.
Most un-informed people will point to the following phrase
as justification for birthright citizenship:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

Under the current (wrong) interpretation, the words "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" are superfluous. Now one can either assume that the architects of this phrase just wanted to throw in some extra, un-needed words or one could ask what they meant by the phrase.

The intent of the framers is express and clear, as recorded in the May 30, 1866 edition of the Congressional Globe. Senator Jacob Howard, author of the clause, said, "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers ...".

Senator Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, elaborated:

"What do we mean by 'subject to the jurisdiction' of the United States? Not owing allegiance to anyone else. That is what it means ... It cannot be said of any (one) who owes allegiance ... to some other government that he is 'subject' to the jurisdiction of the United States."

Five critical words here proscribe automatic citizenship - "...subject to the jurisdiction thereof...". Those who enter illegally, in other words, not under the aegis of the United States government, are therefore not under its jurisdiction.

The "automatic" citizenship conferred on children of illegal aliens is in defiance and contempt of both the intent of the framers and the understanding of the framers' intent by those who voted to ratify it.


Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:00 am
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Anchor babys used as human shields> Seems like not the correct reason to have children>Thinking they will be able to stay here>


Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:01 am
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Post Re: What do you think about the right to American..?
Ok...YOU WANT TO BE LIKE THAT???
My father was born in TX to an Irish Immigrant and a Mexican woman who crossed the border twice a week to work here. My father speaks English and Spanish, and taught his children (3 sons and 1 daughter) to speak English. His mother died and his Irish father deported anyway. AND YOU WANT TO TELL MY FATHER HE DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE A CITIZEN? And count your generations, how long has your family been here? Do you think the natives wanted your ancestors here? ME ME ME, that is what is wrong with this country. you forget too quickly where you came from.
PS: this was in the 1950s


Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:07 am
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Post Re: What do you think about the right to American..?
The discussion has been to create an amendment that removes birthright. It certainly deserves examination.


Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:07 am
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we have this in Canada too,,, andi say NO WAY,, BYE BYE. and take your kids with you, when they are old enough they can return on their own... its an easy way to stay in the country ,, get knocked up and get welfare... thats crap


Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:09 am
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NO ANCHOR BABIES


Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:15 am
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it doesnt bother me unless its used to get free welfare, there should be no welfare for kids of illegals


Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:20 am
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Post Re: What do you think about the right to American..?
I believe this to be the stupidest thing that American government has ever supported! If your parents are illegal than so are you. I agree if this policy was done away with a great deal of this illegal invasion would halt. Besides these illegals are not under the jurisdiction of the USA and that ammendment has been misinterpreted for a long time now. I want it stated in plain English, no more anchor babies!!!!!!!!


Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:45 am
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